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Frederica von Stade and Jake Heggie: Two humble titans of opera and music on their musical friendship - Powerful nuggets of wisdom and heartwarming stories!
Anthony Plog, hostEddie Ludema, producer
Date posted: Dec 13, 2025
In this special episode, we're joined once again by two extraordinary figures in the world of opera, mezzo-soprano Frederica von Stade, affectionately known as Flicka, and composer Jake Heggie. Flicka has graced the great opera houses and concert halls for over four decades, known for her captivating performances in roles by Rossini and Bellini, as well as her powerful interpretations of modern works like Heggie's own operas, including Dead Man Walking. Jake is renowned for his operas, having created over ten full-length works, including the widely acclaimed Moby-Dick and, of course, Dead Man Walking.
Part 1
In Part 1, we delve into their creative partnership, particularly focusing on their song cycle Paper Wings, inspired by Flicka's children. They share personal stories about the songs that resonate universally, illustrating how specific experiences can lead to broader emotional connections in art. The discussion also touches on the joy of collaborating and the importance of maintaining humor in their performances.
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[Subscriber Content] In Part 2, Jake and Flicka reveal more about their personal journeys with music and performance, including the importance of pushing through those dreaded "bad days" where things just don't seem to work right. Flicka discusses the emotional depth in her interpretations, while Jake reflects on the significance of trust in music. Their insights provide a deeper understanding of the art of singing, composing, and music in general enriching the listener's appreciation for the nuances of opera and lyrical storytelling. Listen in for a heartwarming conversation filled with memories, laughter, and profound insights into the world of music and creativity.
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